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SPBH2O's avatar

I, like you, came late to the Telepathy Tapes for many of the same reasons as you. And, just like you I was drawn in by the seemingly inexplicable nature of what was being described. I’m becoming more comfortable with the knowledge, so eloquently stated by Werner Heisenberg. “Not only is the universe stranger than we think, it’s stranger than we can think.” Materialism is circling the drain.

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You’ve got a pretty weak argument my friend.

“One major one was that some of the children began to write on their own, without any assistance, often using an iPod or computer, as we see in Episode 2 of The Telepathy Tapes with the 10 year old boy from New Jersey, Akhil.”

Did you not watch the videos on the TTT website?

In every “test” with Akhil, his mother is either making hand gestures, distinct torso movements, or vocal cues, sometimes a combination of the three, before every single letter that Akhil touches on his iPad. And he only had about 65% success rate.

And Mia’s mother literally just points her head toward the right object she’s supposed to touch.

“The original claims were debunked precisely because there was some sort of subconscious merging happening between the kids and the facilitators.”

Yeah the “merging” is called the ideomotor effect. Subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) cues show the kids which letter to choose.

Isn’t it odd that it’s not FC broadly which has reports of psy phenomena cropping up — it’s only when the FC has an obvious and conspicuous mode of non-psy communication involved. And isn’t it odd that they can’t just put the spelling boards on a stand — the facilitators has to hold it front of the kid? And isn’t odd that the TTT narrator never explains any of these details about how spelling boards work?

“But now these children have learned their parent’s subtle “chirps and leans and flutters” so well that they can type them out on a keyboard with 100% accuracy — something you could never train your neurotypical child to do in a thousand years.”

Where are you deriving your claims from? Why do you think neurotypical children cant do this too? My friends in middle school (they were two best friends) literally taught themselves how to do a form of ideomotoric communication so they could impress everyone with “mind reading”. (It was very entertaining, btw.)

“One is so committed to one’s worldview — in this instance, materialism — that one has to twist one’s logic into the most fantastic contortions in order to make the phenomenon fit into it.”

This is completely disingenuous. I’m not at all a materialist, nor are most of my closest friends. Most of us were more or less agnostic after listening to TPP. Some more ready to believe, some more ready to dismiss. But when we watched the videos, none of us had any doubts that there was non-psy communication happening.

The fact that you dismiss any skepticism as a symptom of materialist dogma shows your own dogma, my friend. Think twice before casting aspersions. And please watch the videos and think about the well-being of those children. Look at Mia’s grimace and frown beneath the eye mask. Think about how Akhil is feeling when he just wants to leave the test and do other things but his mother sternly forces him back to perform more.

Its very disturbing that we would be so quick to turn these children into symbols for our metaphysical beliefs, at the cost of their humanity — when it’s perfectly possible to hold those metaphysical beliefs and have a sober clear eyed view of what’s happening with these tests.

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